Another Democratic debate has come to an end and I can’t help but hope I am not the only one who noticed how many times both H. Clinton and Obama said “well on this issue we have considerable overlap.”  If your platforms are essentially the same then seriously . . .

Here are the things that I find of interest from last night:


  • supports the Dream Act which would provide education at all levels to every child in the U.S. regardless of citizenship
  • believes immigration reform must be two-fold: controlling the border AND making the process for existing undocumented immigrants to become legalized without exorbitant fees nor special perks (ie “the back of the line” plan)
  • would allow remittances to Cuba from families living and working in the U.S.
  • would relax travel restrictions for Cubans living in the U.S. wanting to visit Cuba (hopefully this also translates to allowing Cuban scholars to travel to the U.S.)
  • subsidized health care for those who cannot afford buy-in plans
  • once again spent a considerable amount of time with the audience before and after the debate
  • believes in diplomacy with “our friend and our enemies”
  • believes in an open process amongst those who disagree in the party, with Republicans, and with the N. American people
  • supports bilingualism for immigrants, wants required bilignualism for all students to support a stronger ability to compete and cooperate on the global stage (most “first world” nations already require this), and English proficiency for everyone

H. Clinton

  • referenced her groundbreaking health care plan from the 1990s which I can only hope means she is planning to go back to it instead the buy in plan she has been talking about so far
  • dinged Obama for plagarizing (he says he had permission, the person he took it from is in his camp, but admits he should have cited him, & he should have) then plagarized from an Edward’s speech for her “triumphant” debate conclusion as well as previous plagarism from B. Clinton speeches
  • pointed out how ridiculous a border fence would be based on the line going through Texas school campuses (it also goes through rezes)
  • does not believe in diplomatic meetings without assessment and threat where necessary
  • mentioned working for health care for veterans (but avoided talking about voting for the war)
  • made a better effort to interact with the crowd after the debate (tho once again went straight for moderators at the beginning)
  • supports bilingualism for immigrants but also fluency in English

They both spoke quite a bit about policy, but again the policies as addressed in the debate were prefaced with “well we basically agree here” and then were outlined to show that they do.  So, I for one have gotten quite bored with the whole thing.

Obama has won 11 primaries since Super Tuesday.  He has more states and more delegates. When she was ahead, I questioned the media’s assertion that she was tied not winning.  I question it again now that he is winning. At the end of the day, it boils down to what you want out of a leader and who you think will deliver that to you.  The rest of this drawn out silliness needs to stop.  I for one am done with silly town.

I do have a question for readers though: Does anyone know if Obama’s campaign has employed more Asian American staffers or if he has issued any comment on being behind H. Clinton in the employment of Asian staffers?

8 thoughts on “Yaaawwwwnnnnn!

  1. I don’t know whether Obama has hired more Asian American staffers after the November 2007 study that showed that he had none. It is evident, however, that the US-born, under-30 second generation is organizing on the grassroots level, more or less independent of the campaign, and particularly in response to the CNN/ “80-20 Initiative” report. I’m more clear on your second question that Obama has not addressed the lack of APIA staffers.

  2. hey kiita – he does have some APIA staff, he just has less than all of the other democratic candidates who had some (which means more than the ones that had none) a very dubious distinction indeed. I think it is interesting that as we talk race and gender, the APIA factor seems to be left out of the equation on the national level and largely in the blog world as well. Thanks for letting me know he hasn’t said anything about being called out.

  3. When someone expresses their belief that all Americans should be proficient in English, I wonder if they think there are people who believe we should NOT all be proficient in English. No one, especially no immigrant, believes knowing English isn’t necessary in this country. If people are saying they believe everyone should be proficient in English the way they might say all children should be educated, then the issue is how to get that done, right? Uh, wrong, apparently, because I rarely hear politicians go on to talk about access to English as a Second Language classes or other ways to help people learn English.

  4. good point Regina. I think one of them did say something about ESL classes but for the life of me I cannot remember which one it was . . .

  5. I thought about 20% of Clinton’s (top? I don’t know) staffers were Asian (as of Nov.), which is quite a bit more than any other campaign I know of . . . it was also the only campaign in which whites were less than 50% of the staff (info from here).I don’t watch much TV news, but the news I’m reading online definitely describes Obama as being in the lead and Clinton as being behind.I think bilingualism is great, but I’m very wary of any plan that would require it or prescribe it as routine policy. I do think Americans could stand to learn more about the rest of the world in general (I’m Nigerian-American), but I don’t think forcing it on people is the way to go about it . . . and as Regina says, most immigrants are well aware that they need English to make it here.

  6. Tope – I don’t think either candidate was talking to immigrants but rather to “the real voters” in N. America, ie non-immigrants. What is sad to me is that both H. Clinton and Obama feel they have to cater to this kind of blatant racism to win. I think Obama’s bilingualism for everyone point was his pathetic attempt to note that the English-only argument that they were dancing around was in fact racist and I think Hillary’s comment “I wish I could speak two languages” was more of the same. As I think about the general election, I want someone who, as Obama said in a different speech, says the hard things to audiences that may not want to but need to hear them. This was one of those moments and I think they both failed; hence why I put it on the list.

  7. Ah, I see. I totally agree, both Obama and Clinton have danced around and at points even pandered to the racist vote, esp. on immigration . . . but on my most cynical days I wonder if it really is possible for anyone to win in this country without that vote (or the misogynist vote)?

  8. tope – that is such a sad but potentially truthful comment on where we live. I like to believe that there are more anti-racist, anti-sexist, anti-imperialist etc. people in N. America than there are both card carrying and passive racist/sexist/imperialist/etc. people. Maybe if we had someone with the right financing, experience, and connections who was willing to run on that platform we would find out for sure. For me, a couple hopeful versions of that were eliminated from the race and that is why I am still sitting quietly in the background wondering if come general election time I will be voting for Shirley Chisolm and VP Geraldine Ferraro.

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